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matthewfenn
 player, 109 posts
 www.nj-pbem.com
 Northern Journey PBeM DM
Thu 27 May 2010
at 17:09
Re: Getting rolls from the Dice Roller
<GRIN>  I suspected that compatibility and accessibility might be the issue with doing any sort of floating dialogue box for incorporating the dice roller within the message window - but it doesn't stop me wanting it ;-)

Personally, I feel that if an "enhancement" type feature such as this doesn't work for everyone, because of their own settings/browser choices, then the pop-up dialogue dice roller enhancement could probably be toggled on/off depending on what settings/browser they have - they'd still have the original functionality - but wouldn't get access to the cooler stuff because of their choices... :-)  In other words, rather than hold back the site to the lowest common denominator, build in enhancements for those who can...

LOL - of course, I also realise that hasn't been Jase's philosophy for a long time, so I'm not expecting a sudden turn-around, but I just thought I'd express my opinion on the subject.

Finally, I'm also well aware that it would be a significant programming endeavour to make a version of the dice roller available in such a way, and as such, given the limited resources and huge pile of other developments and enhancements that Jase has on his plate, I strongly suspect it would never fly!  But it is nice to dream :-)
jase
 admin, 2497 posts
 Cogito, ergo procuro.
 Carpe stultus!
Thu 27 May 2010
at 15:54
Re: Getting rolls from the Dice Roller
Personally I think I'd prefer to highlight, copy, then paste.  An automatic link is all javascript based, some browsers won't allow access to the clipboard, others with prompt (which would make it more complicated than a simple manual copy+paste, imho).


stm typed:
If I am allowed to dream, a dice-tag might be nice. Something like [roll dice="3d6+5" options="unique"]Greataxe damage[/roll]

The problem RPoL has is that the dice roller is so damn complicated.
  • dice
  • reroll maxes
  • reroll ones
  • record each dice
  • unique dice
  • drop x lowest
  • drop x highest
  • keep x lowest
  • keep x highest
  • system (some negate part or all of the above, some don't)
  • target number (for some systems)
  • fumble range (for some systems)
  • step number (for some systems)
  • number of cards (for some systems)
  • roll bonus (for some systems)
  • secret roll (thought this would probably not apply)

Ok, I think I'm done.  Possibly not though.  (c;


I've had several ideas over the years on getting rolls into posts, it's just a matter of finding the time.
matthewfenn
 player, 108 posts
 www.nj-pbem.com
 Northern Journey PBeM DM
Thu 27 May 2010
at 14:48
Re: Getting rolls from the Dice Roller
I've certainly seen the technique on some websites (admittedly not dice rollers on rpg sites!), the ability to use a pop up floating layer above the main window isn't a new thing...  If I find any examples, I'll post a link...
stm
 player, 19 posts
Thu 27 May 2010
at 14:26
Re: Getting rolls from the Dice Roller
bigbadron typed:
Compare that to, "roll the dice as many times as you want, copy the results, switch to the compose screen and paste them in".

Yes, but that's how I'm doing it now: "Roll the dice, mark the text, Ctrl+C, switch tab, Ctrl+V." I do not really see how to improve this, yet.

matthewfenn typed:
I wasn't referring to a proper window... more of a floating layer within the existing window...

Now that's science fiction! Okay it, could be done with Javascript or frames or CSS, but mmmmh...

Don't get me wrong I like the general idea, I just haven't seen a convincing implementation, yet.

This message was last edited by the user at 14:27, Thu 27 May.

matthewfenn
 player, 107 posts
 www.nj-pbem.com
 Northern Journey PBeM DM
Thu 27 May 2010
at 13:20
Re: Getting rolls from the Dice Roller
From the FAQs:
quote:
Can you make window <insert screen name here> pop up?

Nope!  That would be forcing everyone to open the link in a new window.  As it currently is, people can right-click and select "Open in New Window" (or similar) if they want a new window (in IE you can shift-left click).


I wasn't referring to a proper window... more of a floating layer within the existing window...
show/hide dice roller
Loading custom dice roller defaults ...
Enter in the number of dice you want to roll and the amount of sides each die has. Any modifier to the dice roll is added to the result, not to each die.
RPoL Die Roller
Select
No. of

die
d dice

size
 ±  to

total
or: Manual
?
(eg "d20", "3d6+2" & "d20+5,d8")
then: optionally select
General
 - or - 
Reroll Max  - or -  Reroll 1's
Record Each Die   Unique Die
Game System / Special Dice
?
then: Reason for roll
   Secret roll
Refresh the dice log


11:11, Tue 25 May: stm rolled 18 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 12. Know where your towel is!
11:11, Tue 25 May: stm rolled 18 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 12. Know where your towel is!
11:11, Tue 25 May: stm rolled 18 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 12. Know where your towel is!
11:11, Tue 25 May: stm rolled 18 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 12. Know where your towel is!
11:11, Tue 25 May: stm rolled 18 using 1d20+6 with rolls of 12. Know where your towel is!